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Post by kyleitosj on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:12 am

If you type in "all is not what it seems" at seeing-is-deceiving.com, you will be given a wallpaper to download. In the center is the unfinished pyramid with the all seeing above it enclosed in a circle with a star behind it. Below the pyramid, it says "Trust" in a banner. Around the pyramid is a banner with 16 stars, 8 on each side. In between the banner of stars and the pyramid there is a word on each side, "nihil" on the left and "obstat" on the right.



This is what is said about it at wikipedia:


"Nihil obstat is an official approval, certifying that a work dealing with faith or morals does not contradict Catholic teaching. The "Censor Librorum" reviews the work as delegated by a bishop of the Roman Catholic Church. The nihil obstat is not a certification that the reviewer agrees with positions or approaches in the work.

Translated into English, this Latin phrase means "nothing hinders" or "nothing stands in the way." It is therefore also used to indicate that a proposal or idea in the general sense has no opposition.

The nihil obstat, is the first step, along with the Imprimi potest, toward the granting of an Imprimatur. Under older Canon Law, a book written by a member of a religious order had to receive two nihil obstats by members of the order to receive the imprimi potest."



All of this is in a circle. All around this symbol is the alien writing with very bold letters at the top. The bold letters translate to: "The Conduit." The rest is hard to translate, but this is what I think it says: "The Sacrilige Nwara-Ula will not end! We must bring forth the Duca Drudge! Our (maste) gnosis of humans (i)s l(imite)d. The people w(ill) not quarrel (with) (ou)rs! The World Conspiracy E! Fina(l) od(d)s...You are not right! I have seen the fnords! Ducaz are but one of the many servants! Death to the attas (others)!



This is gnosis from wikipedia:


Gnosis (from one of the Greek words for knowledge, γνώσις) is the spiritual knowledge of a saint or mystically enlightened human being. In the cultures of the term (Byzantine and Hellenic) gnosis was a special knowledge or insight into the infinite, divine and uncreated in all and above all,[1] rather than knowledge strictly into the finite, natural or material world which is called Epistemological knowledge. [2] Gnosis is a transcendent as well as mature understanding.[3] It indicates direct spiritual experiential knowledge[4] and intuitive knowledge, mystic rather than that from rational or reasoned thinking. Gnosis itself is and was obtained through understanding, arrived at via inner experience or contemplation such as an internal epiphany of intuition and external epiphany such as the Theophany.



This is fnords from wikipedia:


Fnord is the typographic representation of disinformation or irrelevant information intending to misdirect, with the implication of a conspiracy. The word was coined as a nonsensical term with religious undertones in the Discordian religious text Principia Discordia (1965) by Kerry Thornley and Greg Hill, but was popularized by The Illuminatus! Trilogy (1975) of satirical conspiracy fiction novels by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson.



There were many random letters inserted and left out, so it was hard to decipher, but I think this is close to being correct. Because of this distorted english, I think this may be what the alien "Five" is saying. Anyone who says "The Conduit" has a simple story line is now wrong. Also, in the picture you can look around and find "You all rest paranoid, you are right!", "I have seen the fnords!", "Investigate Fertile Crescent!", and "Novus Ordo Seclorum."



Novus Ordo Seclorum is on the Great Seal and means:

The phrase is taken from the fourth Eclogue of Virgil, which contains a passage (lines 5-Cool that reads:

Latin English
Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas; Now comes the final era of the Sibyl's song;
Magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo. The great order of the ages is born afresh.
iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna, And now justice returns, honored rules return;
iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto. now a new lineage is sent down from high heaven.


The forms saecla, saeclorum etc. were normal alternatives to the more common saecula etc. throughout the history of Latin poetry and prose. The form saeculorum is impossible in hexameter verse: the ae and o are long, the u short by position. For the medieval exchange between ae, and e, see ; medieval is another example.

Medieval Christians read Virgil's poem as a prophecy of the coming of Christ. The period of Augustus, although pre-Christian, was viewed as a golden age preparing the world for the coming of Christ. Of which, the great poets where viewed as a source of revelation and light upon the Christian mysteries to come. [1]

The word seclorum does not mean "secular", as one might assume, but is the genitive (possessive) plural form of the word saeculum, meaning (in this context) generation, century, or age. Saeculum did come to mean "age, world" in late, Christian Latin, and "secular" is derived from it, through secularis. However, the adjective "secularis," meaning "worldly," is not equivalent to the nominative plural possessive "seclorum," meaning "of the ages."[2]

Thus the motto Novus ordo seclorum can be translated as "A new order of the ages." It was proposed by Charles Thomson, the Latin expert who was involved in the design of the Great Seal of the United States, to signify "the beginning of the new American Era" as of the date of the Declaration of Independence.



In one of the opening videos of the website it says "Seek the Truth" and in the recent A.S.E. video it says "Final Destiny of the gods." It appears there are many religious conspiracies in the game too. I applaud your persistence if you've read all of this!

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Re: seeing-is-deceiving wallpaper and explanation

Post by kyleitosj on Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:04 pm

Ok guys, update. On my other forum, I posted that "attas" might mean "others" because I thought it was spelled the way "5" might pronounce it. This is not the case. "Attas" is the abreviation for "Attas of the Light." The "Attas of the Light" seem to be an alien faction on friendly or neutral terms with humans. They combat the "anunnaki" who are hostile to humans. These alien factions do not consist of one alien race, but multiple ones. The Drudge must be part of the "anunnaki". I didn't research this much, but this is what i got from reading a paragraph or two. Just google "attas of the light" to find out more.

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Re: seeing-is-deceiving wallpaper and explanation

Post by Shoko on Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:20 pm

This game.................is so deep. This is exactly why I'm more excited about the single player than multi. I love stories and such.

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Re: seeing-is-deceiving wallpaper and explanation

Post by samthespark on Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:16 pm

Wow nice nice work!!!!!

Talk about a deep game!@!!@!@!!!
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Re: seeing-is-deceiving wallpaper and explanation

Post by Secret Agent on Fri May 22, 2009 9:07 pm

The story.. it scares me. It's a good scare. Also, all that Fnords and stuff.. aren't those the chicken scratch messages you uncover in the wall with the ASE? I'm so freaking creeped out now. So let me get this straight so far:
- The game is related to Christian/Catholic beliefs
- The Drudge is one of the anunnaki
- The anunnaki are several Alien races
- The Drudge is... good? They're one of the races trying to stop another anunnaki race, this race trying to destroy the human race?

Holy crap, screw online play. Who needs multiplayer when you have single player modes like these O_O' The story is even deeper than Halo.. so.. amazing.. It's almost as deep as an RPG or Metroid or Zelda.. if not, deeper.. a-may-zing.
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Re: seeing-is-deceiving wallpaper and explanation

Post by SilverBlade on Fri May 22, 2009 10:22 pm

Secret Agent wrote:The story.. it scares me. It's a good scare. Also, all that Fnords and stuff.. aren't those the chicken scratch messages you uncover in the wall with the ASE? I'm so freaking creeped out now. So let me get this straight so far:
- The game is related to Christian/Catholic beliefs
- The Drudge is one of the anunnaki
- The anunnaki are several Alien races
- The Drudge is... good? They're one of the races trying to stop another anunnaki race, this race trying to destroy the human race?

Holy crap, screw online play. Who needs multiplayer when you have single player modes like these O_O' The story is even deeper than Halo.. so.. amazing.. It's almost as deep as an RPG or Metroid or Zelda.. if not, deeper.. a-may-zing.
He said the Drudge may be part of the Anunnaki, who are hostile to humans.

I didn't know Zelda or Metroid games were deep. Halo games certainly are. How do you know the story will be deep? So far, the background is deep. I just hope the story is as deeper than its background is.
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Post by Secret Agent on Sat May 23, 2009 7:39 am

"The "Attas of the Light" seem to be an alien faction on friendly or
neutral terms with humans. They combat the "anunnaki" who are hostile
to humans."

AHK. I thought the "Attas of the Light" was a status between humans and the anunnaki, which means they're in neutral terms. In actuality, the Attas of the Light is a whole new alien race of the Anunnaki, which is where Five comes in.. but isn't he a drudge? And how does the Attas of light come in to play?

Also: To silverblade
Halo games aren't really THAT deep.. I mean they have the storybooks and all the forerunners and stuff. But those are just cliffhangers, really. The story means the actual story, the story that you experience, not what you wonder. All this annunaki and drudge and attas of the light talk IS part of the story, since the writings on the wall tell you all that stuff (is that Five who writes it?). What you play of Halo is pretty fun and epic. Halo, universe explosion, the end.. and in Halo 3, cliffhanger. Of course.

The Conduit already has a cliffhanger at the end, since NP spoiled us silly. I don't know what you mean by background, since all that stuff is mentioned in the game, and you're meant to wikipedia Fnords and all that latin english stuff. One of the interviews even mentioned it, saying you can google it and stuff for the people who want more story, and they died all of this together. They didn't just throw in a bunch of fancy words that relate to The Drudge and stuff. They had to actually find ocnnections between each word, which means looking up the words is actually suggested and is PART of the story, as opposed to Halo where your main objective is to stop the destruction of the Halos. You get a mentioning or two of the forerunners and the past and what not, then it's just kill kill kill.

And finally, to the Zelda/Metroid comment. Yes. They are. All of Zelda's games are connected in one big story, along with Metroid. If you're isolating them as one game, I know the console Metroid/Zelda's are deep. The handhelds are quit intriguing, but not as absorbing as the console games.
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Post by SilverBlade on Sun May 24, 2009 1:04 am

Secret Agent wrote:In actuality, the Attas of the Light is a whole new alien race of the Anunnaki, which is where Five comes in.. but isn't he a drudge? And how does the Attas of light come in to play?
Really? He said the Anunnaki were evil, and the Attas of the Light were fighting them, so they can't be a part of the Anunnaki.

Secret Agent wrote:Halo games aren't really THAT deep.. I mean they have the storybooks and all the forerunners and stuff. But those are just cliffhangers, really. The story means the actual story, the story that you experience, not what you wonder. All this annunaki and drudge and attas of the light talk IS part of the story, since the writings on the wall tell you all that stuff (is that Five who writes it?).

The Conduit already has a cliffhanger at the end, since NP spoiled us silly. I don't know what you mean by background, since all that stuff is mentioned in the game,
By background I mean the story that isn't mentioned in-game. How do you know all of that will be mentioned in The Conduit?

Secret Agent wrote:and you're meant to wikipedia Fnords and all that latin english stuff. One of the interviews even mentioned it, saying you can google it and stuff for the people who want more story, and they died all of this together. They didn't just throw in a bunch of fancy words that relate to The Drudge and stuff. They had to actually find ocnnections between each word, which means looking up the words is actually suggested and is PART of the story, as opposed to Halo where your main objective is to stop the destruction of the Halos. You get a mentioning or two of the forerunners and the past and what not, then it's just kill kill kill.
Well, looking up Anunnaki, Attas of the Light, and all that, is wondering. It's just like reading the Halo novels.

I think I get what you're saying, though. You think that The Conduit has existing, real life elements that can be investigated, whereas Halo doesn't.
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Post by Secret Agent on Sun May 24, 2009 9:56 am

kyleitosj wrote:
"Attas" is the abreviation for "Attas of the Light." The "Attas of the
Light" seem to be an alien faction on friendly or neutral terms with
humans. They combat the "anunnaki" who are hostile to humans. These
alien factions do not consist of one alien race, but multiple ones. The
Drudge must be part of the "anunnaki".

OKAY. I've finally got this. And I see where the cliffhanger exists, and how it will open up into Conduit 2.

The Attas is a whole different race, but they're still aliens, and one of them is Five, yes? They said he was a captive Drudge, but he looks nothing like them.

Second of all, The Drudge is part of the anunnaki. The Attas is combating not specifically the Drudge, but the anunnaki group in a whole.

This is where the cliffhanger is, and what could be the next threat: The anunnaki consists of MULTIPLE alien factions. Do you see where I'm going with this? Once Ford is done w/ the Drudge (for the first game, at least), a second race could come in, also part of the anunnaki. That would be pretty cool, as it's all intertwined into one story. Also, is Five the only Attas member in the game? It seems so unnoticed and unknown..

@SilverBlade

I never really thought of it that way (the last part you said). That's a good point.. But what I was actually trying to say was that Halo, the game itself, the story is pretty linear. First, I'd just like to say that I'm speaking on Halo's behalf, the game itself, not the actual story. Anyway, all you get is a few mentionings of the forerunners and the history and stuff in-game, but then it's back to stopping the Convenant from reaching a Halo. To find out that extra information about forerunners, you have to go and buy the novels and search it up on your own time, since it's mainly your choice. Not a lot of the story is linked to the deeper background Halo actually holds..

But the Conduit.. it HAS all those mentionings which link to the deeper background. With the ASE, you can find all those weird phrases, like "Ducaz is but one of the many servants", as seen in the trailers, or "The final destination of the Gods" or whatever. It actually IMPLIES that all this other stuff which seems to have no relevance IS part of the story, so you basically HAVE to look it up to understand it completely. The Conduit directly links to deeper story with all these references you find while playing through the missions, and the game basically drips of conspiracy. On the other hand, Halo just gets in a few words about the past, the forerunners, the flood, the covenant, and moves on to the next mission. Nothing in Halo directly links to the deeper plot, except for the words themselves. To find out all that extra stuff, you have to go out of your way to find certain things. Compare it to The Conduit, and you'll see a very noticeable difference - The Conduit has all these references in-game, and you find them part of the actual campaign mode. You don't have to go to a secret area to unlock a memory from the past, it's basically telling you to look up this and that, research this guy and this one, find out more about this word and this phrase, while Halo is just boxed-in and you only get as much story as there is in the game (unless you decide to go out of your way and look it up).
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Post by SilverBlade on Sun May 24, 2009 11:45 am

Alright. I'm glad we understand each other, lol.
Secret Agent wrote:
kyleitosj wrote:
"Attas" is the abreviation for "Attas of the Light." The "Attas of the
Light" seem to be an alien faction on friendly or neutral terms with
humans. They combat the "anunnaki" who are hostile to humans. These
alien factions do not consist of one alien race, but multiple ones. The
Drudge must be part of the "anunnaki".

OKAY. I've finally got this. And I see where the cliffhanger exists, and how it will open up into Conduit 2.

The Attas is a whole different race, but they're still aliens, and one of them is Five, yes? They said he was a captive Drudge, but he looks nothing like them.
I've seen Five in one of The Conduit manuals. He looks like a Skimmer. What you're trying to say is that he left The Drudge to join the Attas, right?
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Post by Secret Agent on Sun May 24, 2009 12:22 pm

No, I'm trying to say that it turns out Five isn't even a drudge, he's a whole new race. They find out there's another race (which will be featured in Conduit 2) near the end of the game or something. But you just said he's a skimmer, so.. My whole theory is ruined.
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